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Pelican’s SnoBalls: Miles and Elizabeth Kirst

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25 Jul 2011

 

Miles and Elizabeth Kirst, owners of Pelicans SnoBalls.

By Ruth Eckles

All photos by Kim Gray   

Durhamites have probably noticed there’s a  new kid in town, nestled in front of a field of North Carolina kudzu, amidst the growl of Roxboro Road traffic.  Pelican’s SnoBalls, with it’s bright blue and pink storefront and scattering of rainbow colored picnic tables, is hard to miss.    Originally a gas station, the tiny 800 square-foot building has had several different incarnations:  a donut shop, a hot dog joint and, most recently, a “Checks Cashed” business.  In its current form, the business seems a particularly promising one. 

Since its inception in mid-May, the bright retro bungalow has been buzzing with customers most times of the day.  They line up in the North Carolina heat, waiting for relief in the shape of a New Orleans style snoball, known for it’s fine textured ice.  The line serves a useful purpose; with a 100 different flavors to choose from, customers need time to make a decision.  Will it be Cherry Cola?  Coconut Mango?   Tutti Frutti?  Or a mix of several?

Customers discuss their choices amongst each other as they wait in line.  When I ask the five year-old boy in front of me what kind he’s eating, he replies, mushy-mouthed and red-lipped, “Spider Man”.  His seven year-old sister is sampling the more girly choice; a flavor called “Princess”.  Mom, who is diabetic, is enjoying sugar-free Pink Lemonade.  “It’s fun to enjoy a treat with them rather than to have to just watch them enjoy theirs,” she says.  

 

Pelican’s is owned and operated by husband and wife team Miles and Elizabeth Kirst.  A relatively young couple (Miles is 27 and Elizabeth is 26), Pelican’s is their first entrepreneurial venture, though they have been in the cold treat business for years.  Before the Kirsts moved to the Triangle area less than a year ago, Miles managed several different Cold Stone Creamery’s in California.  When they said goodbye to California last September, they had no idea where they were heading.  

“We put everything in our truck and drove east”, says Elizabeth. 

“How we ended up here,” begins Miles, “is totally random,” laughs Elizabeth, finishing his sentence.  

Originally planning on opening a self-serve yogurt shop (“They are huge in California”, says Elizabeth) somewhere on the East coast–either New York, Florida or North Carolina–they settled in Cary, only to discover the Triangle was already full of them. 

“I’d walk into these yogurt stores and they all looked the same.  They all had this sort of contemporary chick feel when you walked in.  We had a much different idea of what we wanted to do; something more vintage and grungy, like 50′s style war posters combined with old-school comic books,” muses Miles.

When a friend of a friend told Miles about the Pelican’s franchise, the couple thought it sounded like fun.  They set their sights on Durham for the stand.

“Durham had just the right feel.  It seems more culturally diverse than some of the surrounding areas.  It had more of the community feel that we were looking for,” says Miles.

Elizabeth chimes in:  “We like Cary a lot–it’s a very pretty place to live.  But coming from California and New York, we were used to areas that are more culturally diverse.  It makes things much more interesting, I think.”

Inevitably, the Kirst’s heard the typical low murmurs of the dangers of setting up shop in Durham.  “People were like ‘You’re going to Durham?‘ and we were like ‘Well, yeah…why not?’,” laughs Miles. 

Miles, not knowing the area very well, admitted to some initial apprehension.  ”Roxboro Road looked okay to me, but we’d drive up and down the street and see that many of the businesses have bars on the windows,” he says.

Where else can you get dessert for $1?

 

100 flavors to choose from

A blue collar street, bustling with traffic most times of the day, Roxboro Road is the former home of Wal-mart, Church’s Chicken, used car dealerships, pawn shops, a half dozen Mexican taquerias, African Braids shops and various other ramshackle “mom and pop” storefronts.  It might not the first place that comes to mind when you think of a nice, relaxing family hang out. Yet the miniature structure called to the couple.  It had been sitting empty for three or four years and had never been vandalized.  It looked odd as a Checks Cashed place, but perfect as a snoball stand.  

  ”We were afraid that some people might be scared off somehow, or they’d be like ‘Oh, it’s in Durham so we’re not going to go.’  But the very first day we were open and I saw the diversity of all the customers, I knew that it would be alright,” says Miles.

So far, it’s been more than alright, it’s been hugely successful.  “Our main goal was simply not to lose money this summer.  We thought we’d be really slow as we first started the business, but from day one, we’ve been slammed,” says Miles, who intially planned on running the business by himself until it got up to speed, but instead, ended up having to hire several employees just to keep up with the pace. 

Elizabeth adds, “We didn’t decide to do this until the end of March.  We signed a lease on April 13th, and we opened on May 13th.  Miles totally took apart the inside of the building and rebuilt it, painted it and set it up pretty much by himself in one month.”

 

Pelican’s franchise owner Adrian Johnson, whose wife is originally from New Orleans, taught the Kirsts the art of making snoballs, the flavored sugar water and creams.

According to Miles, there are many different styles of snoballs, and Pelican’s will customize them to suit everyone’s tastes.

“There’s the Maryland snoball.  It’s more like a crunchy snoball.  New Orleans style is the finest you can get it–powdery and fluffy.  A New Orleans style snoball won’t be saturated with syrup; the white ice will just be patchy with syrup.  Some people will ask for extra juice because they want to drink it when they get to the bottom.  Some people want extra light syrup.  Some people want their ice to be really packed.  We’ll make it however they want,” says Miles.

The ice shaving machine is set up to make a nice soft ice, but getting it right is an art form. 

“You can feel when the grains of ice hit your hand if they’re shaved correctly or not.  I’ll try and shave it most of the time because it makes me nervous to have employees shave it until they’re really good at it,” says Miles.

Elizabeth laughs, “It was a long time before he’d even let me do it.  He’d fuss at me if it wasn’t done right.  Now I finally feel like I can do it, but it does take some time to learn how to get the ice right.”

A Pelican's employee learns the fine art of shaving ice for snoballs

The first few weeks upon opening, there were some steep learning curves. 

“We didn’t know what we were doing at first,” admits Elizabeth. 

Miles recalls the sting of getting an angry email from a customer who had to wait in line in the summer heat for 50 minutes. 

“I totally agreed with him.  That’s way too long a wait.  Thankfully, we’ve worked out all those kinks and people get served very quickly now,” he says.

“We’re grateful that they stuck it through with us,” says Elizabeth. 

Pelicans provided the Kirsts not only with a successful business venture, but a sorely missed sense of commmunity.  Elizabeth says, “We just moved here.  We don’t really know a single person.  As people come more, we learn their names.  If no one else is in line, we’ll chat with them, and learn a little bit about their lives.”  

One thing seems sure, this humble, happy little snoball stand has been a bright spot, literally and figuratively, on Roxboro Road.   Blacks, whites, elderly, teens, toddlers, middle-aged, middle class, rich and poor all line up for their favorite treat.  Perhaps they’ll strike up a conversation, laugh about a flavor, wrinkle their noses at the thought of a Dill Pickle flavored snoball, and discover we aren’t as different as we might sometimes believe we are.

Miles, Elizabeth, and Bella, their Australian shepherd

"Durham needed a place like this. And the price is right"

Folks lined up for snoballs is a familiar sight for New Orleans natives, who have a stand on every street corner.

The average snoball calorie count is 100 calories. Mom says, "It's nice to have a treat where you don't have to think about working out as soon as you look at it."

 

12 Responses to Pelican’s SnoBalls: Miles and Elizabeth Kirst

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Kevin Kirst

July 26th, 2011 at 7:16 am

Thxs so much for the super article….I feel really special that u guys r related to me!!!! It will be fun to eventually make it back to NC to see u guys!! I love you!!!

Dad

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rob franco

July 26th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

Its awesome to hear a story of a cute young couple who is courageous enough to follow their business dreams even in a rough economy for small business. But what strikes me the most is that they sincerly desire to impact this community. I cant wait to watch and see how between the prices and their true heart to serve the customer this small ice stand is going to be just the start of success and impact for Miles and Elizabeth. Give it a little time and Pelicans is going to be a ust on everyones list in Durham.

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Marissa

July 26th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

This is a great article. It’s nice to know the story of the snoball stand we love so much! Best wishes for great success to the Kirst’s and Pelican’s.

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Jackie

July 26th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

Great story! Thanks to the Kirsts for seeing through Durham’s “bad reputation” to realize this city is the best kept secret in the Triangle. Pelican’s is awesome and we love to see that there is a line every time we drive by. Yeah for Pelican’s and Durham!

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Lauren

July 26th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

Great story! Glad I know you! It sounds like a great meeting place. Can’t wait until I’m in Durham to get my snow cone:)

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Sharlene Simon

July 26th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

Awesome snoballs and awesome owners! We discovered Pelican’s in early summer and stop by about once a week. My partner is from Louisiana and was amazed and thrilled to find true New Orleans style snoballs and authentic syrups…and our daughter and I learned quickly that she was so right on! Great place (even with the parking challenges when it’s busy…and it’s always busy!) for a family outing on a hot summer evening at a price most families can still afford.

Thanks for Miles and Elizabeth for becoming one of Durham’s success stories about entrepreneurs who take a chance and make a commitment to our city. Welcome….Laissez les bons temps rouler!!!

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Cindy Lewis

July 26th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

Overall a good read and great to learn more about the Kirsts.

Just a picky thing or two, the Wal-Mart left Roxboro Street and moved off I-85 at Glenn School Road about a year or two ago (leaving a huge, horrible empty shell on Roxboro) and Big Lots is technically on Avondale, not Roxboro. I realize that those the writer was trying to convey a socio-economically depressed strip, but as a middle class resident of the area, it’s not really as scary as some (even, apparently, local folks) may think.

Nonetheless, we are thrilled that Pelican’s is our neighbor (but keep Miles on ice-shaving duty; no one shaves it as well as he does)!

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beth

July 26th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

yum! In Hawaii they call it shave ice – and apparently Obama loves it! Great, fun article that made me wish I could have a snowball…

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admin

July 26th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

Thanks, Cindy, for your feedback and corrections! I’m so embarrassed, especially, about the Wal-mart mistake! I lived in Northgate Park for years and drive down Roxboro Rd. all the time so I feel particularly mortified not to have noticed it was no longer there! I’m going to correct that part of the article. I am definitely not one of those who think Roxboro Rd. is scary. I’m proud to be a Durham-ite.

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Ashley Troiano

July 27th, 2011 at 2:02 am

Congrats to Liz and Miles! Hope we get down there sometime to visit and enjoy some snoballs! Love you guys! God bless!

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Jim Wesner

August 1st, 2011 at 12:26 pm

Great story, Ruth! Brings back fond memories of Williams’ Sno Ball Stand in New Orleans, which is still there after at least 60 years!

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admin

August 1st, 2011 at 1:24 pm

Thanks for reading, Uncle Jim! I remember hearing all those stories about Williams in NOLA!

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